Suspect Propellant, Not AO for 'FATIGUE SYNDROME'

What about the propellant that caused spraying of AO?

 
What causes a product like Dioxin to be 'sprayed?' 
 
 
 
It is butyl or a chemical like 2-butoxyethanol that is a better match for the harm of Vietnam Vets, Korean Vets, 'gulf war syndrome' vets ... not AO per se
 
 

Do gulf war vets & Vietnam Vets have an anemia doctors do not find?  *
 
The Proper View of CFIDS, CFS, FM, ME

 

I think the correct view for those with FM, CFS, CFIDS

is to look for a chemical exposure ... causing our body to go autoimmune & attack us instead of bacteria or virus.

Just because a virus is found doesn't mean it is the cause of all that ails us, especially when our immune systems are not tending to taking care of us ... but ignoring the virus & bacteria to do whatever

lil boy with cough & fever - in hospital


Do Gulf War Vets & Vietnam Vets & Korean Vets have Idiopathic Anemia?

  • Chills  8
  • Fatigue
  • Pale color
  • Shortness of breath
  • Rapid heart rate  *   *
  • Yellow skin color (jaundice)
  • Dark urine (indicative of blood in urine - never dismiss this!
    Stop exposure immediately!)
  • Red blood cells that are small-sized, fragility of membranes, etc
  • Enlarged spleen   *
  • COOMB's Test?  Skip it
  • VERY HIGH WHITE BLOOD CELL COUNTS *  * Abnormal Peripheral Blood

These are symptoms of hemolytic anemia - what this chemical is said to cause.

(AUTOIMMUNE?)

Loose your temper easily? Central Nervous System *

  • Short term memory loss

  • Difficulty concentrating

  • Personality changes to 'grumpy' - Extreme Irritability

  • Difficulty sleeping at night - Sleep apnea? 

  • Narcolepsy in the extreme?

  • All-the-time Depression

  • Suicidal Tendencies

  • Mimics true psychiatric disorder - Paranoia

May affect multiple other body systems & organs

 

Hormones out of range - High or Low - Especially the Pituitary

 

Horrible Headaches

Look for 'the pattern' and the anemia   *
 
Pandemic Flu
 
I hope 'the kids' won't have to get a flu shot  *

 

http://www.valdezlink.com/re/blamingagentorange.htm

 
Reply:  "Actually it was mixed with diesel fuel and then it was sprayed  and the overall toxicity was enhances because they also used Napalm in close proximity to the spraying activities because in tests they found that the intensity of the dioxin was multiplied by 10 times the original levels.  Additionally the so called ranch hand studies used the civilian mixture levels used I agricultural spraying to control weeds rather than the real life 50/50 mixture which far exceeded the statistical data same used to say there wasn't a problem."
Joe Anton <jsant5@...>
jsant91932
50% diesel?

Why don't they list diesel as a cause of some harm?

This still does not address what the propellant was

 

I'm glad the Vietnam Vets have something to blame for their health issues,

but BUTYL  is still a better match for the whole list of ailments they came down with

and it is frequently used as a propellant.

 

You should compare 'gulf war syndrome' vets to Korean Vets to Vietnam Vets.

The stand out harm for all groups is BUTYL (2-butoxyethanol is the one I've looked into)

They should look alike & they should all emphasize autoimmune issues and ANEMIA that hides out

 

If it was ONLY an AO or Dioxin issue, then that would be the only time you see the odd assortment of health issues more widely described in both military and civilian life as Chronic Fatigue Immune Dysfunction Syndrome (CFIDS), CFS, FM, ME  (This chemical causes many variations.  We shouldn't get hung up on which of these best describes our condition as doctors don't know what to do for autoimmune issues ... nor do they know what causes them.)

 

A Vietnam vet told me last week that a solvent they cleaned weapons with would cause reproductive harm and that no women were allowed to do this task, only men.  (Don't they care about the reproductive health of men also?)  This chemical targets the testes and causes reproductive harm in both men and women.

 

He was a 3 tour Vietnam Vet in Special Forces.

He was pleased to hear what I had to share,

and said he would pass it on.  He lived in NJ


What triggers CFIDS, CFS, FM ?