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Toxic
exposures/immune reactivity
commonly
cause autoimmune conditions
like
lupus, multiple sclerosis, rheumatoid arthritis, oral
lichen planus, excema, CFS, FM, ALS,etc.
see the Medical Lab site http://www.melisa.org
when one has chronic exposure to toxics like mercury or
nickel or palladium or etc., many have immune reactivity
or develop immune reactivity that develops into an
autoimmune condition. One can test to determine what
their immune system is reacting to using a blood immune
reactivity test through a doctor using a medical lab
such as the one referenced above.
mercury and nickel are the most common causes of
autoimmune conditions like MS and lupus and rheumetoid
arthritis, but other toxics can also be factors. See
papers on specific conditions at the medical lab site
above.
Also for a paper with documentation (medical studies)
documentating causes of MS, lupus, CFS, FM, etc. and
things that have been documented to help such conditions
see
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~berniew1/ms.html
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~berniew1/cfsfm.html
philb
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EGBE
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what are the
common exposure sources
and what is the
test for it?
are
you sure lots of people have dangerous exposures? how so?
As I said previously, the primary function of the MELISA medical
lab blood tests are for autoimmunity, so they can test for it if
it causes autoimmune conditions;
they test and interact in treatment of autoimmune conditions so
would likely be aware of it, if it was a factor in many people's
autoimmunity. philb |
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That's
Just the Problem
To answer your question on the
lab that can test for autoimmunity, don't a lot of labs test for
either an over or an under active immune system? (If under
active it might be burning out from overworking for years on
end)
At any rate, if they are trying to correlate the autoimmunity
with chemicals found in the blood/urine, they will be missing
this one.
Here's a Site to check some products
& Some products that I suspect hide it:
Audrey
got ahold of me for her husband's exposure to misting
Simple Green
for 45 minutes at work. He must have died, because she
was very interested & now no reply. You probably
know that the company claims Simple
Green is non toxic. They use Dow Chemical's trade
name for 2-butoxyethanol: Butyl Cellosolve. They base
their claim on a diluted test of the the product (about
a capful in a half gallon of water) and THEREFORE state
because it is too diluted, it is not toxic. The gallon
size container offers a full strength choice of use ...
and no change in warnings. Personally I think that is
negligent failure to warn. Simple Green is used in our
Nation's penitentiaries almost exclusively. I
suspect it's used extensively in the Military, too.
You've heard of Melaleuca?
The Tub 'n Tile will not give out an MSDS. They
say the surfactant is proprietary. You know what I think
it is. You might be able to get an MSDS 2002 or before,
but since then products that did report the chemical
there don't
have to now (& usually they didn't
anyway, because all they have to do is to tell you how
to use it properly - OR claim 'proprietary')
| Dear
Margaret,
I
have contacted Melaleuca and they tell me that
the only product they have a MSDS sheet on is
the Solugard Botanical.
I
took my Tub&Tile down out of the cabinet and
the bottle reads "Proprietary Formula
Contains: Citric acid, solvents,surfactants,
solubilizer, fragrance, Melaleuca Oil, and
preservative." I hope this helps.
Oh,
it also reads "Does not contain phosphates,
ammonia, or bleach."
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Employers have to provide an MSDS for
employees if they have over 2, so you
might be ahead of the issue, if you
located one. ...
Or if
there is 2-butoxyethanol or a glyclol
butyl ether, it has been found to be
hazardous by some MSDS info ,
and you might like to strike the 'non
hazardous from the description of this
product
Customer,
I did call product info dept, and
they said they just consider
themselves a home-based company, and
they do not have to provide MSDS info Maybe
one of the old-timers in the business
might have a filed away copy?
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paint is an interesting one, too. *From
WHO (via Toxins
Awareness Group): paint solvents
are carcinogenic, painters having a 40% higher
chance of lung cancer and 20%
higher of stomach, bladder, larynx, etc cancers,
while their children are at increased risk of
leukaemia and brain tumours. Source |
Check out what you might use here:
Protect Yourself From Future Harm - Learn what
Products YOU use that contain it
Check for what products contain 2-butoxyethanol
(CAS Registry Number: 000111-76-2)
in the Household Products Data Base
http://hpd.nlm.nih.gov/ingredients.htm
5% concentration is not safe for home use, per one
expert in product development.
Also check for the complex version Diethylene glycol
monobutyl ether or 2-2-butoxyethanol (CAS Registry
Number: 000112-34-5)
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I don't deny that
the chemical could and does have major effects
I'm just not familiar with it
and not aware of documentation that it affects large numbers-
though it could.
I do research on effects of toxic chemicals, along with others
that I interact with. People I work with over time have compiled
documentation on toxic effects of toxic metals, pesticides,
endocrine disrupting chemicals etc.
The MELISA test is different from most of the tests you mention.
It was specifically developed (for a Pharmaceutical company) to
document the cause of autoimmunity. Its use in labs has focused
on toxic metals because that is what the tests find causing
autoimmunity most often, especially mercury and nickel. But also
others. The MELISA test has many studies documenting its
effectiveness in peer-reviewed medical studies. Search Medline.
or see the site.
But the test can be used for other types of chemicals as well if
they are related to autoimmunity of some type of chronic
exposure.
I think you may be suggesting that this chemical acts through
some means other than chronic autoimmunity.
philb |
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What is your list
of endocrine disruptor chemicals?
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EPA
tested 100 chemicals for endocrine disruption, and
2-butoxyethanol and diethylene glycol monobutyl ether are on the
list.
I didn't see the web page on the
EPA website last I checked. Maybe it's there now; here
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A doctor who is working
with a trial on sclerderma (hardening of skin,
autoimmune disease) was fascinated
with 2-butoxyethanol, but asked for a list of chemicals
his participants might identify as exposures for them.
I thought of Mercury, lead ... but I believe people do not
recognize their exposures to 2-butoxyethanol OR for their
parents/grandparents & since it is a teratogen chemical you
have to look at relatives' exposures also.
I believe that it is the signs of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome you
have to ask about. I
started working on this questionnaire. I think it's a
long list.
This
is a short list. Look
at what my interview with Jeff looks like.
I'm focusing on this chemical: 2-butoxyethanol and diethylene
glycol monobutyl ether because
I feel they are responsible for the EPIDEMIC we are having in
autoimmune issues, diabetes, NHL, etc
Please add these chemicals to your list. They need to be there.
Then one day, I believe you will 'hit the jackpot' in finding
out how many people are affected by it. You are welcome to use
any of my info that you find helpful in this endeavor.
Yesterday I tried to share a new veiwpoint: Diabetes
may be a Secondary Ailment. And the American Diabetes
Assoc first allowed the post on their Type 2 diabetes discussion
forum with a thumbs up ... to a delete a few hours later,
saying, this post is not acceptable on this forum (What better
forum?) but remember, you are definitely heading in the right
direction ... and those who make a lot of money from the status
quo will not be interested. Who cares if many lives are at
stake? Not them.
By the way, Dr. John Stearns is working with glyconutrients
in the trial for scleroderma & one of the main groups in
that arena refused to post a notice to their group about the
trial, and would not let me participate in their forum (after
day 1).
7 links on this webpage - do you see them? |
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autoimmune
conditions are generally improved by glyconutritionals
Autoimmune (Rheumatoid
Arthritis,Thyroiditis,Lupus,Sjogren’s,Reynauds,
Sarcoidosis,Fibromyalgia,Aids,Vasculitis,Pericarditis)
Web
page shared by philb |
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FRONTLINE -
"The Alternative Fix"
Did you notice PBS - FRONTLINE
had a show last week: "The Alternative Fix" Next time
they run the program, they should add a section on
glyconutrients. These
are my thoughts on the program
I'm a new convert - partly because of information I learned from
this discussion form a couple of months ago. My husband is
reading up on them, and is changing his attitude on eating
right. He's starting to read the labels on the food he buys in
the grocery store. Looking for things without preservatives,
that are organic: everything from meat to milk
He said he learned all he needed to know about glyconutrients
from Patient,
Heal Thyself by Dr. Jordan S. Rubin, N.M.D., C.N.C, PhD
Margaret Diann
 e-mail
http://groups.msn.com/Avoid2-BEforHealth-MM |
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